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CSP INC /MA/ (CSPI)·Q4 2024 Earnings Summary

Executive Summary

  • Q4 2024 revenue was $13.03M, down 14.9% year over year and modestly lower sequentially, with gross margin compressing to 28.4% from 35.0% in Q3 as product mix shifted; diluted EPS was $(0.18), versus $0.15 in Q4 2023 and $(0.02) in Q3 2024 .
  • Management highlighted strong momentum entering FY2025: >100 AZT PROTECT leads from Rockwell, cloud signed >10 new customers, cruise lines poised for a stronger FY2025; recurring revenue reached ~17% of total sales (vs <5% two years ago) .
  • Balance sheet remains robust with cash and equivalents of $30.6M; Board declared a $0.03 quarterly dividend payable Jan 15, 2025 and repurchased 2,800 shares for $34K in the quarter .
  • Results vs estimates: Wall Street consensus (S&P Global) was unavailable at the time of analysis; no estimate comparison provided (S&P Global data unavailable).

What Went Well and What Went Wrong

What Went Well

  • Recurring revenue reached ~17% of sales; management expects further growth in FY2025 driven by Managed Services, cloud and UCaaS, and AZT PROTECT adoption: “We have aligned our sales strategy to maximize AZT PROTECT market adoption… grow the recurring business to 17% of fiscal 2024 sales compared to under 5% of sales just two years ago” .
  • Rockwell partnership accelerated AZT PROTECT demand: “Strong relationship with Rockwell Automation generates over 100 new business leads for AZT PROTECT” and management noted a Fortune 500 energy win with rollout to “a few thousand endpoints over the next 3 years” .
  • TS segment executed well: “Technology Solution business generated approximately $12.7 million in sales in the fourth quarter” with growing cloud/MSP pipeline; recurring revenue and cruise lines show improving trends into FY2025 .

What Went Wrong

  • Revenue and margins declined YoY; Q4 revenue fell to $13.03M from $15.33M and gross margin to 28.4% from 33.8%, with management citing a higher percentage of product sales and mix effects .
  • Q4 diluted EPS swung to a $(0.18) loss vs $0.15 in Q4 2023; note the prior-year quarter benefited from a $2.1M Employee Retention Credit, complicating YoY comparisons .
  • HPP contribution was minimal in Q4 (revenue ~$0.4M), while AZT PROTECT’s enterprise sales cycles (often 12–18 months) and legacy Myricom wind-down weighed near-term profitability; SG&A rose to $4.95M vs $4.79M YoY .

Financial Results

Consolidated P&L and Key Metrics (USD Millions, EPS in USD)

MetricQ4 2023Q2 2024Q3 2024Q4 2024
Revenue$15.33 $13.71 $13.11 $13.03
Gross Profit$5.19 $6.48 $4.58 $3.70
Gross Margin %33.8% 47.0% 35.0% 28.4%
Operating Income (Loss)$(0.31) $1.23 $(0.72) $(2.04)
Net Income (Loss)$1.41 $1.59 $(0.19) $(1.66)
Diluted EPS$0.15 $0.16 $(0.02) $(0.18)
Cash & Equivalents$25.22 $27.12 $28.89 $30.59

Product vs Services Mix (USD Millions)

MetricQ4 2023Q3 2024Q4 2024
Product Revenue$11.01 $7.85 $9.08
Services Revenue$4.32 $5.26 $3.95

Segment Snapshot (Q4 2024)

SegmentQ4 2024
Technology Solutions (TS) Revenue~$12.7M
High Performance Products (HPP) Revenue~$0.4M

KPIs and Capital Allocation

KPIPeriodValue
Recurring Revenue as % of SalesFY 2024~17%
Services Gross Margin YoY ChangeQ4 2024 vs Q4 2023+160 bps (services GM)
Share RepurchasesQ4 20242,800 shares; $34K
DividendDeclared Dec 20, 2024$0.03/sh payable Jan 15, 2025

Results vs Estimates

MetricQ4 2024 ActualQ4 2024 Consensus
Revenue$13.03M N/A (S&P Global consensus unavailable)
Diluted EPS$(0.18) N/A (S&P Global consensus unavailable)
Note: Wall Street consensus via S&P Global was unavailable due to request limitations; estimate comparison could not be performed.

Guidance Changes

MetricPeriodPrevious GuidanceCurrent GuidanceChange
Dividend per ShareQ1 FY2025$0.03 (ongoing)$0.03 payable Jan 15, 2025Maintained
Qualitative Outlook: Managed ServicesFY2025N/AExpect continued growth driven by MSP/cloud Raised qualitative outlook
Qualitative Outlook: Cruise Line BusinessFY2025N/APipeline/bookings positioned for strong FY2025 Raised qualitative outlook
AZT PROTECT AdoptionFY2025N/ABuilding via Rockwell and distributors; >100 new leads; Fortune 500 energy rollout over 3 years Raised qualitative outlook

No explicit numerical revenue/EPS/margin guidance was provided; management emphasized qualitative drivers and pipeline strength .

Earnings Call Themes & Trends

TopicPrevious Mentions (Q2 2024)Previous Mentions (Q3 2024)Current Period (Q4 2024)Trend
AZT PROTECT momentumLaunch broadened; global pharma multi‑million AZT contract; Rockwell Journal case study; awards Added mid‑tier manufacturing client; hired VP Global Sales; awards; building reseller partnerships >100 leads from Rockwell; Fortune 500 energy rollout (thousands of endpoints over ~3 years); nine awards; multiple distributor agreements in process Improving
Recurring revenue & MSP/cloudServices +23% YoY; GM to 47% Services +10% YoY; GM 35%; UCaaS momentum Recurring revenue ~17% of total; >10 cloud customers signed; UCaaS contracts ramping; billing turned on Improving
Cruise line demandN/AN/AMinimal Q4 revenue, but pickup late Q4 and into Q1; ~$1M pro services contract to roll out in 2025 Improving
Supply chain/backlogN/APrior-year Q3 benefited from backlog conversion as supply chain eased Not highlightedStable
Government/security winsN/AN/AWestern intelligence agency and Fortune 500s using AZT; another opportunity expected within ~90 days (timing TBD) Improving
R&D/SG&AE&D $0.73M; SG&A $4.52M (Q2) E&D $0.74M; SG&A $4.57M (Q3) E&D $0.79M; SG&A $4.95M (Q4) Investment rising

Management Commentary

  • “Our partnership with Rockwell Automation is building and has substantially increased our active AZT PROTECT leads… grow the recurring business to 17% of fiscal 2024 sales compared to under 5%… with additional growth expected for fiscal 2025” — Victor Dellovo, CEO .
  • “Technology Solution business generated approximately $12.7 million in sales in the fourth quarter… cruise ship order for professional services… piggybacks on the continued consistent momentum… freight liner operation customer continues to add new ships” — Victor Dellovo .
  • “On the HPP side… revenue of $0.4 million, mostly from ARIA based customers… redirected the organization to maximize our relationships with Rockwell Automation and other distribution partners… leads for AZT PROTECT to over 100” — Victor Dellovo .
  • “For the fourth quarter… revenue of $13 million… Gross profit… $3.7 million or 28.4%… net loss of $1.7 million or $0.18 loss per share… cash and cash equivalents of $30.6 million” — Gary Levine, CFO .

Note: The press release reports FY2024 revenue of $55.2M; the call transcript’s “$15.2M” appears to be a verbal misstatement (press release and financial tables confirm $55.219M) .

Q&A Highlights

  • Prior-year comparison context: Q4 FY2023 included a $2.1M Employee Retention Credit, inflating YoY comps; management confirmed this adjustment .
  • AZT PROTECT customer traction: Three Fortune 500 customers (chemical, power, pharmaceutical) plus a Western intelligence agency; one AZT contract “in the millions” and large energy rollout over three years .
  • Profitability profile: TS “cash cow” funds AZT R&D; excluding AZT, TS would be “very profitable”; management suggested potential earnings power and later referenced “about $0.56 per share” in context during Q&A (not formal guidance) .
  • Pipeline specifics: Multiple distributor agreements underway with Rockwell partners; more than a dozen AZT POCs, with several decisions targeted for January and another government opportunity potentially within ~90 days .
  • Program timing: E‑2D work shifted from Q4 into Q1 FY2025; UCaaS billing turned on and pipeline adding 1–2 customers per quarter; ~$1M cruise line professional services contract rolling through 2025 .

Estimates Context

  • Wall Street consensus via S&P Global was unavailable at the time of analysis; comparisons to consensus revenue and EPS for Q4 2024 could not be performed (S&P Global data unavailable).

Where estimates may need to adjust:

  • With gross margin pressure from product mix and HPP still in early ramp, near-term margin expectations may need to reflect lower services contribution in Q4 and timing of AZT deployments; management’s qualitative outlook suggests improving mix and recurring contributions in FY2025 .

Key Takeaways for Investors

  • Q4 softness driven by mix shift to product sales and limited cruise revenue, compressing gross margin to 28.4% and producing a $(0.18) EPS loss; sequential trends were roughly flat on revenue but weaker on margins and EPS .
  • The YoY compare is distorted by a $2.1M ERC in Q4 FY2023; underlying demand is improving with cruise lines, cloud/MSP, and UCaaS ramping into FY2025 .
  • AZT PROTECT commercial traction is building: >100 Rockwell-driven leads, Fortune 500 energy rollout, and distributor agreements in process; expect more middle‑market adoption (shorter cycles) alongside long enterprise cycles .
  • Balance sheet strength (cash $30.6M) and continued $0.03 dividend provide flexibility to invest while supporting shareholder returns; modest repurchases occurred in Q4 .
  • Near-term narrative hinges on conversion of AZT POCs, Rockwell channel execution, and cruise/MSP growth; watch for margin recovery as services mix improves and AZT sales scale .
  • Discrepancy note: rely on press release/tables for FY totals (FY2024 revenue $55.2M) rather than the call’s apparent verbal misstatement .
  • Trading implication: absent consensus, the stock may react more to pipeline/partnership updates and evidence of AZT deployments; margin progression and recurring revenue expansion are key catalysts into FY2025 .